Tuesday, April 10, 2007

"About that quote..."


Posted on Tue, Apr. 10, 2007
Rutgers team, coach lash out at Imus
By REBECCA SANTANA

Rutgers women's basketball coach on Tuesday called the comments radio host Don Imus made about her team "racist and sexist remarks that are deplorable, despicable and unconscionable."

"These young ladies before you are valedictorians, future doctors, musical prodigies," coach C. Vivian Stringer told a nationally publicized news conference a day after the uproar over Imus' comments led to a two-week suspension of his show.

Team member Essence Carson said she and the other players were angry and disgusted but would meet with Imus. They stopped short of saying whether they thought he should be fired for calling the team "nappy-headed hos."

"We are students first," Carson said. "We did not do anything to deserve his controversy."

But she said, "We all agreed the meeting with Mr. Imus will help."

Imus started the firestorm after the Rutgers team, which includes eight black women, lost the NCAA women's championship game to Tennessee. He was speaking with producer Bernard McGuirk on the air when he said "that's some rough girls from Rutgers. Man, they got tattoos ..."
"Some hardcore hos," McGuirk said.

"That's some nappy-headed hos there, I'm going to tell you that," Imus said.

The comment struck a chord, in part because it was aimed at a group of young women at the pinnacle of athletic success.

"It's not about them as black or 'nappy headed.' It's about us as a people," Stringer said Tuesday. "When there is not equality for all, or when there has been denied equality for one, there has been denied equality for all."

"While they worked hard in the classroom and accomplished so much and used their gifts and talents," she said, "We had to experience racist and sexist remarks that are deplorable, despicable, and abominable and unconscionable. It hurts me."

The National Association of Black Journalists' governing board and the National Organization for Women, among others, have called for Imus and his show to be canned.

Even White House spokeswoman Dana Perino was asked if President Bush thought Imus' punishment was strong enough.

"The president believed that the apology was the absolute right thing to do," Perino said Tuesday. "Beyond that, I think that his employer is going to have to make a decision about any action that they take based on it."

Imus has tried to defend himself, saying he was a good person who said a bad thing, but he said Tuesday that the two-week suspension by MSNBC and CBS Radio was appropriate.

"What I did was make a stupid, idiotic mistake in a comedy context," Imus said on his show Tuesday morning, the final week before his suspension starts.

Asked by NBC "Today" host Matt Lauer on the air if he could clean up his act as he promised on Monday, Imus said, "Well, perhaps I can't." But he added, "I have a history of keeping my word."

Imus said he didn't expect forgiveness from the Rutgers team but wanted to apologize to them.

Rutgers basketball player Matee Ajavon said Tuesday, "Right now, I can't really say if we have come to a conclusion of whether we will accept the apology."

Several people have said the suspension isn't enough. The Rev. Al Sharpton called it "too little, too late" and said presidential candidates and other politicians should refrain from going on Imus' show in the future.
The Rev. Jesse Jackson, who marched with about 50 protesters Monday outside NBC offices in Chicago, said Imus' suspensions will not halt the protests.

"This is a two-week cooling off period," Jackson said. "It does not challenge the character of the show, its political impact, or the impact that these comments have had on our society."

MSNBC, which telecasts the radio show, said Imus' expressions of regret and embarrassment, coupled with his stated dedication to changing the show's discourse, made it believe suspension was the appropriate response.
"Our future relationship with Imus is contingent on his ability to live up to his word," the network said late Monday. The suspension was delayed because of a charitable telethon.

Imus, who has made a career of cranky insults in the morning, was fighting for his job following the joke that by his own admission went "way too far."
His career could be in real danger if the outcry causes advertisers to shy away from him, said Tom Taylor, editor of the trade publication Inside Radio.

Imus isn't the most popular radio talk-show host - the trade publication Talkers ranks him the 14th most influential - but his audience is heavy on the political and media elite that advertisers pay a premium to reach. Authors, journalists and politicians are frequent guests - and targets for insults.

He has urged critics to recognize that his show is a comedy that spreads insults broadly. Imus or his cast have called Colin Powell a "weasel," New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson a "fat sissy" and referred to Sen. Ben Nighthorse Campbell of Colorado, an American Indian, as "the guy from 'F Troop.'" He and his colleagues also called the New York Knicks a group of "chest-thumping pimps."

On his show Monday, Imus called himself "a good person" who made a bad mistake.

"Here's what I've learned: that you can't make fun of everybody, because some people don't deserve it," he said. "And because the climate on this program has been what it's been for 30 years doesn't mean that it has to be that way for the next five years or whatever because that has to change, and I understand that."

Comic Bill Maher, CBS News political analyst Jeff Greenfield and former Carter administration official Hamilton Jordan all appeared on Imus' show Tuesday. The show was allowed to continue.
Baseball star Cal Ripken Jr., who was to appear on Imus' show Tuesday to discuss a new book, canceled his appearance.

"He didn't want anyone getting the message that he agreed in any way, shape or form with the comments," said John Maroon, Ripken's publicist. "It was the right thing to do."

The "Today" show's Al Roker said Tuesday on his show's official blog that it was time for Imus to go. "I, for one, am really tired of the diatribes, the 'humor' at others' expense, the cruelty that passes for 'funny,'" Roker said.
Even Howard Stern of Sirius Satellite Radio, a big fan of unrestricted content, weighed in, mocking Imus' apology, according to the New York Daily News. "He's apologizing like a guy who got his first broadcasting job," Stern said. "He should have said, '(expletive) you, it's a joke.'"

Arizona Republican Sen. John McCain, whose presidential candidacy has been backed by Imus on the air, said he would still appear on Imus' program.

"He has apologized," McCain said. "He said that he is deeply sorry. I'm a great believer in redemption."

Imus' radio show originates from WFAN in New York City and is syndicated nationally by Westwood One, both managed by CBS. The show reached an estimated 361,000 viewers on MSNBC in the first three months of the year, up 39 percent from last year. That's the best competitive position it has ever achieved against CNN (372,000 viewers).

Imus' fate could ultimately rest with two of the nation's most prominent media executives: CBS Corp. chief Leslie Moonves and Jeff Zucker, head of NBC Universal.

"He will survive it if he stops apologizing so much," said Michael Harrison, publisher of Talkers. Imus clearly seems under corporate pressure to make amends, but he's nearly reached the point where he is alienating the fans who appreciate his grumpy outrageousness.

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16 comments:

Calcano said...

I feel that the quote doesn't necessarily back up the lead. The lead speaks about how the Rutger's team and their coach felt that the comments by Imus were deplorable and dispicable. The quote then goes on to speak about how the ladies were valedictorians and future doctors or musicians. I don't feel that it is a bad quote but it doesn't go well with the lead. If the lead would have mentioned what Imus said about calling them "nappy headed hos," then the first quote would back the lead better. Since I was able to see her reaction, the quote was very emotional, its hard to say that it is factual because nobody know what the future holds but it could very well be true in the future. The verb of attribution is are and i think it was a good choice because she is describing her players. The quote comes from C. Vivian Stringer, the head coach of the Rutger's women's basketball team. She was the best person to quote first because she spoke the longest and made the most impact with her words. I felt that it was a good quote but it didn't back the lead much. Since it is an ongoing story and many people know what is going on, the quote is acceptable.

Kendall said...
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Kendall said...

I agree that the quote doesn't totally back up the lead. The quote would work well in showing that what Imus said was incorrect, but since the lead didn't clearly state what Imus said the quote isn't able to serve that function. It works well, however, in presenting conveying emotion of Stringer and her players. The verb of attribution is 'told.' I can't really think of any other word that would work better. Stringer is the source of the quote, and I think she was an extremely good source to choose for the first quote of the story. The speech she gave at the press conference was very moving and well-articlated and her words were very heartfelt.

Pat Cunnane said...

The first quote does not back the lead. The lead refers to the deplorable nature of Imus’ comments, not the characteristics and accomplishments of Coach Stringer’s players, which is what the first quote references. The quote states facts and opinion, for we can find out whether a member of the team is a musical prodigy or a valedictorian. On the other hand, Stringer subjectively assumes that they are “future doctors.” The verb of attribution is “told,” which is appropriate because that is precisely what she did; she let the world know about the character of her players. Stringer was the best source for the first quote of this story as she spoke eloquently and at length about the incident, but the author chose the wrong quote.

Ryan Hughes said...

I do not think the first quote in this story backs up the lead. The lead told us how the Rutger's coach felt about the comments Imus made towards her team. I believe this first quote should have given the readers a little information about the exact comments Imus made that were so derogatory. This story has been all over the news but people may not be aware of the exact comment Imus said. I believe this quote states reaction and emotion by coach Stringer. The verb of attribution in the qoute is told. I don't think this is a very strong verb to use, perhaps expressed would have shown more emotion. The first quote is said by the coach C. Vivian Stringer, but in my opinion I think the first quote should have come from Imus. We heard from the lead her reaction from his comments but I would want to hear what comments is this reaction coming from.

Taylor61414 said...

I feel that the first quote does not back up the lead. I would have liked something about Imus and not about the "valedictorians...", because at this point I am not sure why I should care about the character of the girls. This quote conveys a great deal of emotion because Stringer was very upset, but it is also impartial on the part of the reporter. The verb of attribution is not an active verb, which I wished it could be. It is hard for me to tell because I saw the conference versus if I had just read the article, but I think an action verb would pull the reader in more. I think Stringer is a good person to quote first, but maybe not this quote because it does not follow the lead so well. She is an integral player in this drama and has very strong emotions. She is also very eloquent so it makes sense the reporter would chose her words first.

Natalie said...

I don't feel that the quote backs up the lead too well mainly because the comment that Stringer said about the girls being valedictorians and musical prodigies has nothing to do with the fact that the "nappy headed hos" comment was racist. It almost makes Stringer look bad because it implies that, because these girls are supposedly such wonderful students, they don't deserve such a comment. But what about the other people in the world that aren't valedictorians or musical prodigies? Do they deserve such a comment as well? I don't think so. It singles them out as being superior to other people, therefore it does not work well to back up the lead.

As for the quote itself, I think it was a rather emotional quote. There is no way to be certain that any of the girls will be future doctors and the definition of a musical prodigy may differ between person to person.

The verb attribution is "told," and while it does the job, I may have used "stated" or "expressed."

I do believe that the source of the quote is the best person to use for this particular story because the lead opens up with a comment that Stringer had said at the press conference. It would make no sense to open the lead up with her statement and then use a quote by one of the players, for example, to back it up.

dpiccone1986 said...

My opinion of the quote is, that it was part fact and part emotion. The athletes in question very well may be valedictorians, etc. but we don't have any way of finding out that information. Also, the quote in question was very much a reaction to Don Imus' comments, because if it wasn't for the Don Imus comments, the Rutgers womens basketball team would not have had that press conference.

dpiccone1986 said...

Yes, I would have, the verb of “are” should not be put in this sentence because these girls have the chance of being all of these things. The coach said it herself, these girls are mostly freshmen and sophomores. The source of the quote is C. Vivvian Harris, the Rutgers’ women basketball coach. No, I think the best person to quote would have been the players, because of the comments being directly associated with them.

kbrown said...

I feel that the quote does not back up the lead. The lead is about how C. Vivian Stringer found what Imus said to be dispicable, but then the quote is about how Stringer feels about her players, not about Imus.

The quote definitely states opinion, because it is tough to predict what the future holds for these players. Stringer was emotional about this situation, and therefore spoke about how she felt about the situation and not necessarily the facts.


The verb of attribution is told. I think I would have used told in that situation.

C. Vivian Stringer was the source of the quote. I feel that she was the best person to quote first because she had the most impactful speech out of anyone that spoke. It is a speech that will be remembered by many who saw it for a long time.

Danielle said...

I really do not like the quote used to back up this particular lead becuase it does not directly back up the reaction of the coach and the team to the comment made by Don Imus. I would not say that it has absolutely nothing to do with the lead because im stating their acheivements you can get a better pitcutre of why the coach would be so angered by the discrimniniation of the accomplished women. I do believe that the coach gave much better quotes throughout the press conference that conveyed so much more emotion and would have backed up the lead beter than the quote chosen. I think that the quote expressed fact in that it stated the achievements of the girls, her opinion on the matter,and both the emotions envolved and her emotional reaction.The verb of attribution is "told" and I think this word choice was acceptable. The source of the quote is Vivian Stringer, the head coach of the Rutgers women's basketball team. I do think that this was the best person to quote because she spoke for the majority of the press conference and is basically the spokesperson for the team. She is coach, these are HER players, so she is obviously deeply affected nad involved in this matter.

ATL22 said...

The first full quote does not back up the lead and fails to strengthen the lead. This is because it does not address the "deplorable, despicable and unconscionable" remarks that Imus made. Instead, it seemingly changes the topic. The quote states both facts and opinion. While the women may be valedictorians, they are not necessarily going to be future doctors. The verb of attribution is 'told.' I think this verb does work well enough, but the columnist may consider using a more powerful verb next time. Next, the source of the quote is coach C. Vivian Stringer. She is the best person to quote because her name is mentioned first thing in the lead. This implies that she is one of the most important people in this news story; her opinion is critical to the story's development.

Karunya said...

I don't think the quote backs up the lead because the lead talks about how Stringer calls Imus's comments sexist and deplorable but the quote takes a different angle talking about the good qualities of the girls.

The quote states facts but it is also a reaction to Imus's comments.

What is the verb of attribution in the quote? Would you have used a different word?
The verb told works in this quote in my opinion but it makes it feel like a nationally publicized news conference is a person as if it is a more intimate setting. I might have stuck with said.
Vivian stringer is the source of the quote and she is a good person for the quote because she is mentioned in the lead. However, she had made many more moving and powerful comments that might have been more efficient been more efficient instead.

Mark Adelman said...

This quote really does not back up the lead. It takes the quote about the girls' character, wich really has very little to do with the fact the comments were racist and inappropriate for him to say. The quote mostly converys reaction, as it is clearly an emoional response to Imus' remarks. The verb of attribution, told, works well for this case as it was a press conference. The source is C. Vivian Stringer, the coach, who is the probably the best person to quote first here, as the headline reads that the team and coach lash out at Imus, and she is the lead figure of the team

trentmurdoc said...

Although Stringer's praise of the women of the Rutger's team was a significant part of her speech it did not in any way carry the most impact.

The first quote of a story should grab the reader's attention as well as tie into the lead of the story. I believe that this quote accomplishes neither. There were a great many other quotes from the press conference the writer of the story could have included that would've made it much more powerful.

If the first quote following

"racist and sexist remarks that are deplorable, despicable and unconscionable."

would have been something to do with her attacks on Imus or her inspirational message about racism in contemporary society it would have given the story much more to stand on. I would have included a more powerful quote.

Tsitsi Wakhisi said...

I think most of you are in agreement that a better quote could have been used as the first quote. I don't disagree that the reporter had an arsenal of quotes from which to choose. However, the reporter chose to use a quote that had the coach saying something positive about her team members to perhaps nullify the "nappy headed ho" comment from Imus.

The verb of attribution is
TOLD.

We can verify if any of the students had been valedictorians. It doesn't matter that we won't know if any of them will become doctors. The comment is based on what their majors are currently, their aspirations.